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Hi,
When I startup XonarSwitch, it says "A Xonar sound card has been detected, but the card model can't be recognized by XonarSwitch". I have a Xonar DG.
Any idea why the model is not recognized?
Thanks,
Francys
To have an idea about why that's happening, I'd need you to post your card's instance ID. Instructions about how to get that data are in the main post above, under "Beta Feedback Guidelines".
Just downloaded 9.527. Only problem is that nothing happens when I click on ASIO control panel. Tried to install ASIO4All, but can't figure out how to do it.
I used to have an ASIO driver that showed in the Asus control panel. Then again as I don't know about ASIO, maybe I don't need it?
I have the Essence ST card.
Thanks for your response and your Xonar Switch.
Is the ASIO control panel menu enabled or grayed out?
ASIO is not grayed out. It's the same color as everything on the list except for Real Time Settings which is in bold.
One more question about unsecapp.exe, does it need access to the internet?
Thks
Unsecapp is a component of Windows Management Instrumentation, and it doesn't need access to the internet as far as XonarSwitch is concerned. About the ASIO control panel not working, can you please send me an email, following the instructions above, under "How to contact the author"? There are a couple of things I need to ask you in order to understand what's going on on your machine.
Newest version 09.527 open a process unsecapp.exe. Never saw this with last 2 versions. Is this normal? Please let me know. Thx
Yeah that's a part of Windows. The operating system starts that process when XonarSwitch requires some notification. It's perfectly safe, don't worry.
Couldn't get your email address by clicking on your name.
I did get system info shown below:
Sound Card Model : Xonar Essence ST
Xonar Driver Version : 8.1.8.1822
Xonar Driver Registry Key : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}000
Xonar Card Instance ID : PCI\VEN_13F6&DEV_8788&SUBSYS_835D1043&REV_00\4&35E69562&0&38A4
Operating System Version : Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Operating System Locale ID : 1033
Thanks for posting the system info, but I also need other data in order to troubleshoot this problem,
Try opening XonarSwitch's about window again. If my name is written in blue, then by clicking on it you should get a message box showing my mail address and you should also get it copied into your clipboard.
Otherwise, I can contact you at the mail address you used to post here, if for you it's ok.
No, your name is not in blue. Only the Xonar Switch is blue and nothing happened when I clicked it.
Please feel free to communicate using my email address.
Sorry for all the trouble.
Since the last update the program refuses to start. I deleted the executable and all references using Find/Find Next from the registry and downloaded the latest version again and same result;no start?
I am using a D2X on Win7 x64 latest Uni drivers. Since there is no start there is no tray icon to gather complete system specs sorry. Will supply whatever info you need. It HAD worked perfectly until now?
Thanks in advance.
I need to get in contact with you to troubleshoot your specific problem, but of course since you can't start XonarSwitch you have no way to get my email address, and I won't post it here to avoid being picked by spambots.
The only option left is that I write an email to the address you have used to post here, provided you confirm you are ok with being contacted.
Yes direct response would be fine as long as general posters have no view of it so i don't get spammed.
I appreciate your time and think the program is quite useful:especially the on the fly profile switcher as I often go between games music and movies. thanks in advance
Your software's great, but when changing the text size in Windows Personalization, the text boxes in Xonarswitch become cropped or misaligned.
Thanks for reporting this. I'll take a look and see what I can do about it.
Hi! First of all thanks a lot for your beautiful work with supporting Xonar cards!
Do I understand correctly that the PERFECT way to use XonarSwitch is with "Low DPC latency" driver configuration? So basically skip Asus Audio Center altogether since XonarSwitch has all features anyway? Should also hide the default Windows volume icon I suppose.
I don't know if I would define that perfect, but it's surely the way that has the least feature overlapping among different pieces of software.
There are features of the ASUS and C-media control panels that aren't supported by XonarSwitch, but if you don't need them, running XonarSwitch alone will keep your DPC latency low while giving you access to profiles.
Edit: BTW the layout you described is the one I'm using on my PC: UniXonar in Low DPC Latency configuration, XonarSwitch, System volume tray icon disabled.
app worked fine for a few weeks, but now I get "run-time error '13': type mismatch"
When do you get the error? At application startup or doing something specific?
In the feature-notes it says "Headphones Gain: set gain mode where applicable. On the Xense, Sennheiser mode is supported.".
I can't seem to find anything about headphone-gain, and it seems I might need something like that.
I mean, I have this issue where I push the levels over say 80% (both the mixer-level at 80-85+ and the master-volume at 80+, I get this effect where the audio is "pushed back" as if there's some kind of compressor or limiter active. This is really annoying, cause I don't have this when I play the same music on a regular old stereo. It seems like my card is too weak or something? I have a DS by the way. I know it's one of the more "entry-level" ones, but I don't understand this "pushback"-effect I'm getting. It's like the levels are "clipping" but not in the literal sense.
I could really use something that amplifies the level without needing to push the amplification to 80-85%+ on the card itself, which is clearly something that it doesn't like.
This is especially a problem with the more dynamic audio, like older recordings that aren't all compressed and ridiculously loud, for which I obviously don't need as much amplification.
AFAIK the DS doesn't have a dedicated headphone amplifier, and that's why you don't see the option.
About the "pushback" effect, do you have SVN active by any means? That feature will dynamically adjust the output loudness and can lead to the kind of behavior you have described.
Oh, I thought the DS did have that, but I could be mistaken.
And no, I know what you mean with the SVN-function, but I've never used it until I messed with all the settings earlier to see if I could fix this problem.
It's actually a similar effect but way worse and not as smooth as the normalizer-feature does it. It really sounds like a limiter/compressor on a bad setting.
The SVN just gradually lowers the volume if it gets too loud, and while it does prevent from that sort of "overloading", it of course becomes TOO weak in my case.
I've also read that the headphones I use have a really high impedance and are hard to power or something. They're the Sennheiser HD424s from the '70s.
Sounds great, if you can push it. So I guess it's just lack of amplification...
I actually haven't tried what the card does when I open its levels all the way and then feed it to speakers instead. Hm, I wonder...
Also, if it would be a lack of power/amplification in the card, wouldn't there be some software-based "booster" out there to amp the output a bit? Maybe even something to consider for XonarSwitch?
If I'm not mistaken, the HD 424 has a reputation for being difficult to drive, so that probably explains the weird behaviors you are experiencing.
It might require you to go for another card with a builtin headphone amplifier (GD(x), ST(X), Xense), or to use an external headphone amplifier. The second option would cover also listening to those headphones from portable devices, which most likely would incur in the same power limitations the DS does when attempting to drive such a difficult load.
I'm no headphones expert though, so take this only as a generic input before you look for a better advice.
Exactly, I've read the same thing, and it's probably what we think it is then. I haven't really tried a different set of headphones because I never had many different ones.
Previously I had a wireless set which of course has built-in power, which didn't need any source to amplify all that much.
I'll probably have to look into a different card or device indeed if I want to keep using this set. I basically bought the DS some years ago on a tight budget just so I'd at least have something that works for both music and videogames, but I didn't realize some headphones might need some more power.
Would you by any chance know an interface that supports MIDI-connection (for a keyboard), a line-in (for guitar) and maybe even an additional microphone-connection, along with a headphone-connection for amplification then? Though, I don't know if you have any knowledge of that. It would be handy if I could find a package like that.
I'm afraid I can't be very useful, as I'm not by any means an audio card expert. I'm merely a programmer who bought a Xonar DX and wasn't satisfied with the bundled software.
Maybe someone more knowledgeable than myself can chime in and provide some useful advice.
Oh, I understand. Well, thanks anyway. And keep up the good work. I think it's great that there are people who create modifications or programs and don't do it for the sake of making money. It's always handy to have more options and possibilities. 🙂
I just wanted to add that it's great that you can actually see the values on the equalizer, because the original interface is really tedious as it changes the sound quite a bit per PIXEL and it doesn't even show by how much you've changed it. I don't know if there was a way to find like profile-files of the original software, but it would be really hard to save it and change it back to the way you had it set.
Also, would it be possible to make those EQ-profiles show up in XonarSwitch?
And, would it be possible for you to add more bands? Or would the Xonar-software/drivers not allow for that (just like adding gain I guess)?
Because 10 bands is already really nice (cause you don't find that often), but even up to 30-40 could still be useful I find as someone who works with audio and music a lot. Frequencies like 15-20Hz, 100Hz, 200Hz, 350-400Hz, 700-750Hz, 1.5kHz, 3kHz, 6kHz, 10-12kHz, and 20kHz, could all be handy to be able to change.
Having EQ settings that were defined in other interfaces available in XonarSwitch isn't difficult.
Just open that interface and XonarSwitch's Real Time Settings window side by side and then recall the other interface's presets one by one. You'll see XonarSwitch immediately reflect the sliders positions. Save each as a preset in XonarSwitch, and you'll be able to use them later both in real-time and when adding or editing profiles.
About the equalizer bands, those are hard-coded in the driver, which merely accepts a gain parameter for each band, so what you ask isn't really possible I'm afraid.
I see. I'll try that.
And I was afraid that might be the case. Maybe I should find an alternative equalizer or something then.
Hello. I have Xonar DS and here's my today's problem http://i.imgur.com/czeMj0X.png Card is working just fine, I still can change everything via C-Media panel. I've tried to reinsert card in slot, tried to reinstall UNI Xonar drivers - none of this helps.I'm using Windows 7 by the way.
I need some basic diagnostic data to try and understand what's going on. The instuctions about how to post them are in the post above under "Beta Feddback Guidelines".
Sound Card Model :
Xonar Driver Version :
Xonar Driver Registry Key :
Xonar Card Instance ID :
Operating System Version : Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64
Operating System Locale ID : 1049
I've checked for viruses - everything is fine. Nothing was changed in my pc. Switch was working - reboot - not working anymore 🙁
Can you please follow these instructions?
1) Open the device manager (Windows key + R -> devmgmt.msc)
2) right-click on the Xonar entry in the device manager
3) Click on Properties
4) Click on the "Details" tab
5) In the combo-box choose Hardware ID
6) right click on the first line
7) Click on copy
8) paste here and post.
Wow, there's something really wrong with my PC. I think i'll just reinstall whole OS and it would be good. Thanks to you for reminding me about device manager 🙂 http://i.imgur.com/mDiE6Qs.png
Thank you. Why haven't I googled for this earlier.
Is it possible to automate stereo upmix switch to be on only when stereo signal is beeing played and disabled for 5.1 sources?
It's not easy to do that. I don't even know if it's possible for an application to access another application's audio stream to check how many channels are being used. I think your best bet is to create different profiles for stereo and multichannel playback, with stereo upmix enabled/disabled respectively, and switch them accordingly via key presses or command line arguments depending on the source.
Hi Giulio.
First of all, I want to thank you for this app. It really helps me a lot, especially with the profile future. I couldn't get to work the automatic front panel detection, so the shortcuts help me a lot. By the way I have a DG.
I don't think my problem is a bug, but it's annoying. So, I use headphones a lot (Sennheiser HD 202 II), and setting the volume is really annoying. It starts to get very loud at 10% master volume, at 20% master volume it reaches like 70% volume of the headphone, and from there it rises very slowly to 100%. Actually I can barely hear any volume change above 50%. It means, that the whole scale is not used to change volume, just the half of it, because the 50%+ part is like the same. The scale is like a logarithmic scale, which is strange for me, because the volume scales are exponencial mostly.
Can you change it to exponential one, or at least soften it a little?
Sound Card Model : Xonar DG
Xonar Driver Version : 8.1.8.1822
Xonar Driver Registry Key : SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}002
Xonar Card Instance ID : PCI\VEN_13F6&DEV_8788&SUBSYS_84671043&REV_00\4&F52DBAB&0&10F0
Operating System Version : Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro x64
Operating System Locale ID : 1038
What you report is really weird.
I tried on my system and I don't experience what you describe: the changes in master volume above 50% seem on par with those below.
XonarSwitch passes a linear volume value between 0 and 100 to the audio volume API, and it's the system that handles the calculations necessary to translate that to a dB value for the card driver (which internally works in decibel). According to documentation, it does the translation in such a way that the perceived increase in volume is linear, which in my subjective experience I can confirm.
It would be interesting if someone else with your exact same setup (card, operating system and drivers) could try and see if they can confirm that yours is a general problem in that specific situation.
Actually the software says that I'm not wrong. Look at this picture, i've made it to demonstrate the problem. Look at the dB levels compared to the master volume percent.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c4tgpg7qaeshnqe/sound.png
When I said "the changes in master volume above 50% seem on par with those below" I was referring to the perceived loudness, not the volume variation in dB. The dB scale is not linear, so if you want to increase loudness linearly with a slider, you can't linearly increase dB values.
The picture you posted is the effect of the system projecting the linear increase in the slider position to a non-linear increase of dB so that if you move the slider up 25% you hear the volume increasing 25%. That wouldn't happen if you mapped the slider position directly to dB values.
I tought that the dB is equal to the loudness. Never mind, I still have the problem. I will try to make a video, with some noise measure tool so you can see.
On other hand, it is possible that it's not from this software.
It should be fairly easy to check if XonarSwitch is behaving correctly or not. Open the sound control panel, double click on the Xonar Speakers endpoint and then select the "Levels" tab. If XonarSwitch is working as it should, you should see XonarSwitch's master volume reflected in the system slider at any given moment.
That should also mean that using the system slider instead of XonarSwitch's should have the same audible effect and therefore should exhibit your problem as well.
In that case we could safely conclude that the problem is caused by either the system audio layer or the Xonar driver.
Yes, they move together. I will try the original asus driver now, let's see if that helps or not. If not, than it should be from the system... Right?
Theoretically yes, but in all honesty if Windows 8.1 had this kind of bug it should have surfaced by now.
Also, if this is indeed a bug caused by the way the Xonar driver works internally, I doubt there is any difference in this respect between the offical drivers and UniXonars.
Driver modding allows to improve the user experience when the original driver's misbehavior is due to setup parameters, or other things that can be changed "from the ouside", but only C-Media can change the driver's inner workings, which requires having access to the source code.
This isn't my field of expertise, though, so I'll stop here.
Ok, so I've changed the drivers, tried the original one, and the 3 way modded. It didn't help, so I've reinstalled the Windows. No change... So it seems, that I have to live with it...