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paradox.delta12 Jul 2012 @ 17:00
I hope someone can help me.
I'm running a xonar dx for 5.1 sound and a essence stx for headphones. after i installed both cards with drivers and controll- centers, only the audio center for the dx was starting, even when i started the .exe from the essence stx subdirectory. my taskmanager also tells me that the stx-exe is running but the audio-centre only allows me to edit the dx. Is there any kind of .dll or something i have to edit, to change the audio center ? (stx center works, when the dx is disabled in device-manager)
CarvedInside14 Jul 2012 @ 15:57
You can try renaming the exe from STX folder to AsusAudioCenterSTX.exe for example and try launching then.
This is a long shot but you might want to try installing UNi Xonar (1.53) drivers with Cmedia panel. And see if the cards are detected separately, one in Asus Audio Center, and the other one in Cmedia.
I don't know of any way to make Asus Audio center change settings to the other card. Anyway if somehow the tips above help or you find another way please report back.
Omar13 Jul 2012 @ 01:59
The Asus Xonar Phoebus DRIVER is relased ON ASUS WEB SITE if possbile at this time use part of the driver for example: Dolby Digital Home Theater 4 and GX 3.0 CPL GUI on all Xonar or for top ASUS Xonar HDAV1.3 deluxe? integrate in unifed driver? thank you
CarvedInside14 Jul 2012 @ 11:03
Don't know about Dolby Digital Home Theater 4. There was a guide on how to make it work but guys here said it doesn't work with newer drivers. I'm really not that interested in pursuing this.
On GX 3.0. Its more a matter of testing it. I guess I could try to make a separate installer only for GX 3.0 but you and others interested have to test it and report if its working. And there is one more thing, don't get your hopes up regarding GX as it will probably work just like 2.5 (currently).
EDIT: It seems that GX 3.0 files are made for Phoebus drivers and with not work with other Xonar cards.
borg13 Jul 2012 @ 19:53
The Front Panel switch v3.1 works with DG on Win7 x64? Or any simmilar shortcut or command line option for the AsusAudioCenter.exe is available ?
CarvedInside14 Jul 2012 @ 10:52
It should work, try it. There is no other way, not that I know of.
MasterFaster14 Jul 2012 @ 09:44
ASUS Xonar Phoebus soundcard review
http://guru3d.com/article/asus-xonar-phoebus-soundcard-review/
Greets,
MasterFaster
dotslasher14 Jul 2012 @ 13:47
Im getting crackling noises while video/audio is being played with the v1.61 drivers. the 1.60 did not have this issue.
I have an Xonar Essence STX.
CarvedInside14 Jul 2012 @ 15:40
Strange. Might be the slightly newer Asus Audio Center. Have you tried installing 1.61 drivers more than once? Cause it could be just a temporary problem.
dotslasher14 Jul 2012 @ 16:00
Yes I did, 3x already.
There's also a bug where you switch from Speakers to Headphones (back input) and back to speakers the input stays on the Headphones even though it says it's switched. (via Xonar Audio Center)
P14 Jul 2012 @ 16:02
same here for the switch bug, both in asus and cmedia; reverting to 1.53 solved the problem.
CarvedInside15 Jul 2012 @ 14:34
Ok. Might be the Asus Audio Center from DG , as 1.60 uses the DS one. Thanks for you feedback.
1.6x drivers aren't recommended for STX. Use 1.53 instead.
P14 Jul 2012 @ 14:08
Is there a way to avoid mic/line-in monitor latency? If you choose to monitor through Win7 options you get something like 500ms latency... through the Asus/CMedia mixer button you get better results but still a perceivable delay if you play a guitar (like 20-50ms). This is not related to ASIO, i mean direct monitoring withouth sound processing or mixer pathing... any post-1995 sound card has that feature, except Asus cards... i'm sure it's driver faults, as i've heard that on linux it's possibile to do direct monitoring.
CarvedInside14 Jul 2012 @ 15:35
If your on Vista or Win7 and if you installed Uni Xonar drivers with Low DPC Latency or Cmedia Panel options, then I would suggest to try to check the Normal version. Low DPC Latency and C-media disable 2 processes responsible with GX, but I found out that in 1 case they might reduce input latency. From what I can tell this only works with RMAA, and the very strange thing is that if I would rename the application from rmaa6.exe to xmaa6.exe then it would not work. You could try this, install and run rmaa in the background and see if there are any improvements to input latency. Please share if it works or not.
You don't need to enable GX from Audio Center. If you are on XP this wont work, as on XP rec latency is already lower.
Other than this, it doesn't look like there is another way. I looked into this and haven't got anywhere. Yes, its the drivers.
P14 Jul 2012 @ 15:59
I'm trying just now with the normal version, and also trying to load rmaa in background, but i don't hear differences. I also don't know a way to measue this delay, I can only say that it's not "direct" monitoring for the "sloppy" feeling that i have when playing the strings and hearing them back on the headphone/speakers. For this, I think the delay it's on the 20ms range.
P14 Jul 2012 @ 16:24
I've found this: http://burianek.com/blog/archives/513
The problem here is that we don't have those sliders in the levels tab of Method 2. Is there a way to unlock those slider through some kind of .inf hacking? I remember doing so on a very very old soundcard, but can't find a way to apply this here.
CarvedInside15 Jul 2012 @ 14:30
Sorry can't help you, don't know if its possible to unlock those sliders for Xonar cards.
P14 Jul 2012 @ 18:12
I contacted the support, they said to wait the new driver release. ?!
CarvedInside15 Jul 2012 @ 14:16
I think its a generic message. They promised a lot of things to a lot of people. This problem and others are present and reported by people since Xonar cards first launched. So don't get your hopes up.
Maybe you can use you onboard card for this thing.
Michael P. Tosto14 Jul 2012 @ 16:54
Well, I was running a gen1 i7-950 with a Gigabyte mobo. Now I'm running a gen3 i7-3770 also with a Gigabyte mobo, and now the Xonar DX crashes my PC. Awesome because the built in sound sucks and I don't want to lose my audio card. I even tried C-media version with reduced latency, no dice. Anyone have any ideas?
CarvedInside15 Jul 2012 @ 14:27
Check and see if you have the latest update for motherboard. Try different PCI-e slots.
This is a long shot but might want to install the PLX firmware update for your card. Its old but maybe your card comes with the older firmware. It fixed more things than those in the log. For downloads and instructions go to Asus download page, select Windows XP, and go to Utilities, and download PLX fireware update Ver 1.1. It works on Win7 regardless that you selected WinXP.
Michael P. Tosto17 Jul 2012 @ 05:27
Ok, thanks...I used the PLX firmware update utility, it did say "1 device updated" in the action box, so I'm taking it that it was the older firmware, but it didn't read out old/new version so no way to really tell. I guess I'll have to wait and see if anything gets better. As far as other slots go, from what I read on my MB, only one slot should differ, the PCI-Ex4 slot, which can go into x4 mode. The other (including the one it's in) are x1. I'm taking it this is a x1 card? I wasn't able to ascertain.
CarvedInside17 Jul 2012 @ 11:58
If the firmware update did the trick please let me know so I know what to recommend to others in such situations.
Yes the card is PCIe x1. would be better the pcie slots that are different. Didn't understand where is the Xonar card plugged in now.
Michael P. Tosto19 Jul 2012 @ 04:09
Carved...I would say your fix did the trick. I've noticed a few things. First, since using the update utility I have not had a system freeze. Second, I've played easily an hours worth of Saints Row The Third, and it didn't do it's usual halting for a few seconds at random. Fallout 3 still crashes but FAR less often, and it's Fallout 3 so there's a million reasons for it to crash. Overall...it worked I'd say.
Michael P. Tosto23 Jul 2012 @ 18:26
One issue...that firmware update seems to have broken EAX (GX). It gets detected by games like Quake 4 if turned on, but there's no longer actual working EAX. I've tried 2 and 6 channel input, but GX mode results in 2 speakers working and that's all. Pro Logic works, and normal 5.1 games work as well.
CarvedInside24 Jul 2012 @ 10:48
I don't think its from (PLX) firmware update. Maybe with the older firmware and GX you would get sounds from the other speakers but maybe it was a channel mismatch (rear right instead of front right and so on).
Please check you Xonar settings according to Faq and troubleshooting guide - > Question 9. And you in game settings.
FYI GX is a cause of many issues including blue screens.
Can't help any further than this.
Michael P. Tosto24 Jul 2012 @ 16:42
I've read about GX issues, I don't use it often except games that support it. Does it make 5.1 happen or is it simply reverb features? I've forgotten it's been so long. In the past, when I selected it on a game, say Race07 that didn't have normal 5.1 but supported EAX,it would go from 2 channel to 5.1 and very much seem to be playing separate channels correctly.
Michael P. Tosto24 Jul 2012 @ 23:51
Well, I have to be honest I gave up. Today with a friend visiting, the computer crashed due to the sound card...so obviously the firmware update only helped the issue. I bought a SB Recon 3D Fatality and it's really good...EAX works in games and Quake 4 for example has full working 5.1 with EAX effects where the Xonar no longer did.
Michael P. Tosto27 Jul 2012 @ 16:35
Sorry for yet another update. Yeah so, it sounded decent on low volume...turning it up I realized every bad review I read was true. I returned it, and now have spent the $$$ for the HT | Omega eClaro. Hopefully it works out, and by my reading your drivers will work should I need them eh?
CarvedInside27 Jul 2012 @ 20:00
Yes, they should work, with eClaro you will have to select Cmedia Panel with GX, because Asus Panel will not work.
I don't think you will get better results with the eClaro, I expect it to behave just like your Asus Xonar card, since you bought it I guess we will find out soon enough.
Michael P. Tosto28 Jul 2012 @ 18:24
Sure enough....sorry I can't reply to your last post it won't let me...the HT|Omega has the same crashing issue. What should I do? I need a good sound card that won't crash the PC lol
What about the Xonar Phoebus?
CarvedInside29 Jul 2012 @ 12:41
Either go for Creative X-FI XtremeMusic (this is practically the old generation but its above Recon3d) or go for their flagship X-Fi Titanium HD . I personally wouldn't go for the Phoebus.
Michael P. Tosto29 Jul 2012 @ 15:19
What is wrong with the Phoebus? I see initial issues with BF3 and MW3, but they've been fixed. Seems like a nicely made, feature packed card. Just wondering?
CarvedInside29 Jul 2012 @ 16:38
I don't have some specific issues with Phoebus. Its just ASUS and C-media care and competence, and you already paid for a broken card from them.
Michael P. Tosto29 Jul 2012 @ 16:46
Well, in a world of all sound cards sucking in one way or another, I can tell you I personally hate creative more still.
CarvedInside30 Jul 2012 @ 13:37
🙂 Then I hope Phoebus will be better for your setup. Let us know how things work out.
Michael P. Tosto01 Aug 2012 @ 06:34
Well...I feel really stupid cause the issue wasn't with the sound card. Once the Omega was out and I had an issue with no sound card I knew something was up. Turns out (pretty sure now running much better) that the video card overclock (though slight) was causing the issue. The end result is amazing though, the Xonar Phoebus is by far the best sound card I've ever used or had. The control pod is an awesome feature, the drivers are actually worthwhile, music and movies sound amazing, and EAX games work perfectly with GX 3.0. Anyone looking for a card, I'd recommend this 100%!
MasterFaster14 Jul 2012 @ 22:00
Driver Sweeper is discontinued?
It seems Driver Fusion is replaced Driver Sweeper
Driver Fusion will have a free and a paid version
http://treexy.com/products/driver-fusion.aspx
CarvedInside15 Jul 2012 @ 14:36
Thx for sharing. Hope there are some mirrors for driver sweeper:)
Virus15 Jul 2012 @ 15:23
Small mod for Asus Panel:
Forced Essense STX UI (red): http://virusdev.ovh.org/files/UniXonar%20Helpers/...
NOTE: exe is modified, not skin files.
paradox.delta16 Jul 2012 @ 23:30
too bad it opens a red dx audio center x)
eewqtwtw17 Jul 2012 @ 07:14
This is ROG Xonar Phoebus ui??
Virus17 Jul 2012 @ 18:31
@Up
No. And also Phoebus is not CMI-8788, is a CMI-8888DHT
ASUS AVxxx are a CMI-8788 rebrands, CMI-8888DHT is new chip with Intel HDA interface support.
Xonar Phoebus UI: http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-xonar-phoebus-...
@UpUp
Yes, this is only UI hack, but goto Informations ("i" icon) and check card :p
Tony15 Jul 2012 @ 19:12
I have Xonar DS run on 7 x86 and 5.1 speakers. When GX is off I have no upmix to 5.1 (on Winamp). When I switch on GX i have but when I start playing games like Fifa 12 if i close the game annoying sounds appear.
CarvedInside16 Jul 2012 @ 14:45
GX is for EAX emulation in games and its know to cause problems and crashes. Please check the stereo upmix section in Faq & troubleshooting guide page.
tazy8116 Jul 2012 @ 16:04
Any hints about 1.61 driverset on w7 x64 sp1 with xonar d2 ? The install is taking forever to complete (no matter wich setting i apply), the driver cleanup function is always on...
The original driver installs without problems
CarvedInside16 Jul 2012 @ 16:10
In your case uncheck silent installation to see where it hangs out. Maybe check older drivers like 1.53 , check this topic and if none of this work install the drivers with testmode on.
Steve Johannesson17 Jul 2012 @ 17:24
I just did a new PC build, with an Asus Z77 Sabertooth mobo, the onboard sound is absolutely horrible, so I've been researching for a decent sound card under the $100.00 range. Seems all of Creative's latest stuff appears to be junk, with lousy drivers etc. Looking at the Xonar DGX 5.1 offered on Newegg, will your drivers work correctly with this card? BTW, I'm running Win7 64 OS fully patched with all updates. Also, I've been hearing of some kind of "loop" regarding Xonar cards, what is that about?
Thanks for your time, Sincerely,
Steve
CarvedInside17 Jul 2012 @ 19:36
They should work as no bad feedback come from DGX users. but I cannot promise you that the drivers will work correctly on you DGX or any other xonar card for that manner, mainly because there are a small number of Xonar owners that have problems installing the Uni Xonar drivers. So if you decide to buy the card, buy it with the idea that you would use original drivers.
Xonar cards have different issues that are happening for some owners, i don't know what "loop" issue you've read. Some sound loop issues are hardware related (incompatibilities or broken Xonar card), and some come from enabling GX (EAX emulator). Not many are affected buy hardware issues causing a loop, but there are some even with new systems.
Virus17 Jul 2012 @ 21:43
I will not recommend any card not compatible with Intel HDA Interface, because PCI drivers are all crap. Creative rewritten drivers on Titanium HD premiere (first PCI-E HDA card).
If you want nice Windows drivers look for a HDA class card (Creative Titanium HD or newer Crative cards or ASUS Xonar Phoebus).
ALC892 is not a bad integrated codec too, you can run even Creative X-Fi MB II (with little fix... you know what I mean ...) with all features...
Also I maybe explain why (current) GX is so bad: it work in this way:
HsMgr.exe - Hooks Manager is injecting HsSvr.dll to all process in system.
HsSvr.dll - Hooks Server, after attaching to process installs hooks for WndProc and DirectSoundCreate. Hooks is a wrapper over original function, to execute you own code before/after that fuction. The problem arise because of dumb programmers, hooking code is baaaaad ! Also when app crashes it not unhook it so "loop" occur because of scrambled functions.
Code in Hooks NOT emulate EAX at all, it only FORCES compatibility flags, and fix some functions to not crash because of that. Also, I are using hook/detour library in my own program but is much better, with disassembler and code relocation ( http://www.gamedeception.net/threads/21965-Cross-... ).
C-Media/ASUS programmers used simple solutions, with almost any error detection and possible recovery...
But ...new version of GX from Phoebus drivers looks better. It uses service client model.
PS: Sorry for bad english.
RealNC22 Jul 2012 @ 18:19
I want to try these drivers. But there's no download link? How is one supposed to get them?
CarvedInside22 Jul 2012 @ 22:44
Download links are at the bottom of the page. There is a button with light blue stripes "Download latest drivers".
lum1n23 Jul 2012 @ 16:54
Got a problem with EAX games, I have Xonar DX, latest unixonar drivers, Win7x64, Logitech X-540 5.1 acoustic, everything is working, but not my center channel- it's silent in games such UT2004, UT3, STALKER1-2-3, Alpha Protocol. My mode is set to gaming and GX is enabled. Every speakers are working, but not the center one... I tried everything, can u help please?
P. S. Center channel isn't working only in games with EAX.
Virus23 Jul 2012 @ 20:32
Read my post above, GX is a crap. Disable EAX/GX and play without it, there is NOT any solution for missing effects/no sound, because Xonars DO NOT support EAX3/4/5. It's a big f***** lie !