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Could I get some help please? I have connected my D2 to my Logitech Z906 speakers through optical and I cant seem to get Dolby or DTS to work for me.
Set sample rate to 44.1 KHz ,as in this case higher is not (always) better & also it might prevent Dolby to work.
If you didn't do so, check the Xonar manual to see if you properly connected and set the settings right.
Just so you know, using analog connection is actually better (sound quality wise) than with digital (optical,coaxial).
Are you for real? Suggesting Analogue instead of digital is a stupid thing to do. First of all DTS and Dolby surround does not work properly through analogue and secondly Analogue output does not sound better than digital output.Yes I will get 5.1 output through the analougue but thats not true dolby sound. I have the soundcard connected through SPDIF because I will get true Dolby and DTS. This is the first time I have seen such a suggestion.
Seriously stick to modifying the drivers.
Anyway after many installs with different configurations I got dolby and DTS to work.
Maybe you are rare one and receive audio the digital way, but most people perceive it analog way, so somewhere digital->analog conversion must happen. DACs on Xonars are quite good, quick search says your Logitech Z906 can't decode True-HD and DTS-HD, so using analog indeed would mean better quality for your case.
Also I know what I am doing with connecting my equipment. I've installed penty of home entertainment systems and I've built at least twenty computers. Please dont make silly suggestions like to connect Analogue instead of digital. Anybody that know what they are talking about will know digital sound is cleaner and clearer than analogue.
> I’ve built at least twenty computers
You are making me laugh, seriously, 20? There was a day I had to do so much in one day... No one competent would even bring numbers of assembled computers in discussion.
@steve30xx
Damn ur so stupid it make me freakin. Dont know if to laugh or cry. Go and learn the 1x1 of audio technologies.
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qaz :
Maybe you are rare one and receive audio the digital way, but most people perceive it analog way, so somewhere digital->analog conversion must happen. DACs on Xonars are quite good, quick search says your Logitech Z906 can’t decode True-HD and DTS-HD, so using analog indeed would mean better quality for your case.
Where did I say I wanted DTS-HD and True-HD? My Z906 supports Dolby Digital 5.1 decoding and DTS decoding. When connected through analougue it wont be outputting true DTS or Dolby Digital 5.1.
Again, there is no 'true' DTS or DD in the end - end is analogue, hardware or software DTS etc. decoding doesn't matter as long as it's done right. Do you have any proof that Xonar does something wrong what your hardware does right?
As for being rude - you completely deserved it for replays to CarvedIns at 3:20 and 3:27. Want polite speak - start from yourself.
Steve30xx I think you overreacted . I was sharing with you my option based on what I read about this in numerous topics, and it should make sense to you too if you read qaz's last comment and think about it. Maybe we are wrong, but either way, you shouldn't take it personal and should have not responded the way you did. Please don't take this the wrong way.
qaz has responded roughly in the same tone you did.
Will probably edit offensive remarks from the comments.
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CarvedInside :
Steve30xx I think you overreacted . I was sharing with you my option based on what I read about this in numerous topics, and it should make sense too you too if you read qaz’s last comment and think about it. Maybe we are wrong, but either way, you shouldn’t take it personal and should have not responded the way you did. Please don’t take this the wrong way.
qaz has responded roughly in the same tone you did.
Will probably edit offensive remarks from the comments.
Yes I am sorry for over reacting. I am kind of frutrated from doing many different adjustments and installs but I am not getting proper results. According to the manual for this D2 it supports 48KHz in Dolby and DTS so I've set it to 48KHz 24 bit. With the driver I downloaded from Asus it shows the Z906 is getting a Dolby / DTS signal input but the Dolby Digitral Live or DTS Interactive doesnt output 5.1. But with your driver set I am getting 5.1 output but my card is not outputting DTS or Dolby Digital.
Also I cant adjust the volume levels of the two front speakers. Ihave a pair of Tannoy Diamond 2 connected to the front speaker output of my Z906 (because they give better midrange) and they are overpowering the centre speaker even when I have the centre speaker turned up on the Z906 control panel.
I havent tried any of your other drivers other than the newest one so I am not sure if that will make any difference.
@steve30xx I have the Z5500 and a Xonar D2X, I'm currently using the following settings for 5.1
Audio channels 2
48ghz
set analogue output to 5.1 (this allows you to adjust speaker volume in Mixer)
Set SPDIF out to DTS Interactive (before enabling spdif set the analogue output to 5.1)
And finally Enable DTS Neo PC, this will upmix stereo sources to 5.1 (then will be encoded to DDL or DTS connect/interactive)
Thanks for the tip. With the reinstall of Uni Xonar With C-Media Panel (Gx Enabled) and Stereo upmix ticked I have the 5.1 upmix working.
Maybe Carvedins should put this tip in the FAQ because it works beautifully. I had SPDIF set to 6 speaker but setting it to 2 speaker out and not selecting SPDIF as default output I have 5.1 upmix working.
Hi, can you help with audio looping? any game that crashes makes the audio loop until i restart my pc, i've tried your driver and official ones.
I have GX mode enabled since that's what allows you to get the 5.1 sound in games.
Using DTS interactive.
Thanks
Nope sorry.
Some info. I guess you know that this is probably related to GX being enabled. Maybe try to limit the use of GX to only games that need it. I have not found that many games that need EAX (GX) for 5.1 .
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CarvedInside :
Nope sorry.
Some info. I guess you know that this is probably related to GX being enabled. Maybe try to limit the use of GX to only games that need it. I have not found that many games that need EAX (GX) for 5.1 .
Hmm, you see when i disable GX mode in games that are in 5.1 e.g. modern warfare 3 the sound goes horrible, its not 5.1 anymore, if something happens in the rear it comes out of the front speakers, if i enable GX mode then anything that happens in the rear comes out of the rear speakers, and it sounds much better.
Call of duty:MW3, like most of the newer games, doesn't support EAX. On the other hand MW3 has a direct sound 5.1 and it does the job fairly well. So its really strange that by activating GX it actually enhances the sound for you in MW3.
You told Steve30 to set audio channels to 2 and 5.1 speakers, by any chance this is how you have it set when you play MW3? Cause this has to be to 6 channels for 5.1 sounds to actually work, if set 2 channels and 5.1 speakers then you will only have 2 channels playing and not 6 channels, outputting to 5.1 speakers (which is stereo to 5.1 upmixing and not 5.1 souround). I am only saying this because I encountered many people who misconfigured these settings.
If you have set it right (6/5.1) and you want to test some things and help us understand why this is happening, read on. I have some ideas about why this works the way is does for you. I suspect GX to be correcting 5.1 upmix that might happen here, as sounds from front or rear come from other speakers. Some tips
1) Install the driver without upmix enabled, and without GX, either use analog connections or through SPDIF but only with Digital Audio/PCM. Try game
2) If the sounds come the same way, can you try configuring the speakers like in this picture . Try game
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Zaim :
@steve30xx I have the Z5500 and a Xonar D2X, I’m currently using the following settings for 5.1
Audio channels 2
48ghz
set analogue output to 5.1 (this allows you to adjust speaker volume in Mixer)
Set SPDIF out to DTS Interactive (before enabling spdif set the analogue output to 5.1)
And finally Enable DTS Neo PC, this will upmix stereo sources to 5.1 (then will be encoded to DDL or DTS connect/interactive)
Thank you. I dont have the DTS Neo option and I cant adjust volumes in the mixer when I set that , but I am only using the Asus driver right now. I will test this with the Uni Xonar driver.
@Zaim
When the sound loops go to device manager and disable your sound card, the control center will crash (this is ok), re-enable your sound card and restart the control center. then the sound returns to normal.
If I set the optical out to 5.1 I get no sound from the centre speaker , but setting it to 2 speaker out I get sound from the centre speaker.
Thanks mate i'll give that a go next time it happens.
@CarvedInside The reason I told Steve to set the audio channels to 2 was so that the upmixing options are there for stereo sources, now in 5.1 games i've tried setting it to 6 channel and the sound is the same, it sounds awesome i.e. proper 5.1, this is with dts neo pc enabled and dts interactive output. Maybe if it detects a 5.1 source it just encodes it to dts and doesn't upmix the audio? that's what I'm finding as I notice no difference in sound between 2 channel and 6 channel in 5.1 games, if i set it to 6channel all the time stereo sources mean only 2 speakers get audio and there is no upmix options, this is something I think is stupid.
@steve30xx: I came from a similar understanding to yours, but people who know more about this stuff than I do assured me that the DACs in the Xonars are better than those in Logitech's speaker kits (and it has to get converted somewhere, as computers are digital and speakers are analog). Also, Dolby Digital (aka AC3) and DTS are both lossy compression schemes (which also have modest sampling rate and bit depth limits), so using the Xonar's real-time 5.1 digital encoding feature costs a bit of additional quality compared to a decent analog connection.
I liked the idea of using a single TOSLINK (optical) cable to get 5.1 sound from my Xonar DX to my Logitech Z-5500d speakers, but I decided to switch back to 5.1 analog after being advised of the quality considerations. Personally I'm not enough of an audiophile to notice a difference, but there's no reason for me to switch back at this point.
@Zaim: Regarding GX, it's only for pre-Vista games that use DirectSound3D (or especially EAX) to generate 4.0/5.1/whatever sound. It tends to cause a LOT of problems for anything newer.
If you're a gamer with 5.1 speakers, you'll generally want to set the Xonar control panel's input and output channels to 6. This will cause games to generate straight 5.1 sound. The only other setting you'll probably ever want to use is setting input channels to 2 and then enabling Dolby Pro Logic decoding so that you can listen to stereo music or watch stereo videos in 5.1; personally, I don't need to do this because my Z-5500d speakers can be temporarily set to do the Pro Logic decoding themselves (but only when using analog inputs for some reason).
Yes thank u very much i totally agree because thats completly correct. All is said about it nothing to add here.
@hunterz0
Great post! You summarized analog vs digital very well.
Hunter I changed to analogue output but I am no longer getting stereo upmix so I am using optical out again.
As for that other rude guy up there I wont justify an answer.
After following the advice to plug in the speakers through analogue I have no stereo upmix with analogue and I do have stereo upmix with SPDIF. I dont have the option to switch to Prologic through my Z906 so I am better off with SPDIF output.
looks like good work!
i'm about to order a xonar card and will surely check out your drivers.
I have lot problems: i install 12 times (and dont work) and at least i can install (Back to 1794 v1.41 ), but i dont see the control media panel (or Asus Audio Center). I have Windows 7 x64.
I download the official driver and try install only the control media panel and dont let me install that. Any help is welcome. I cant manage my system, because i have speakers and headphone, and i always change from Control media player.
Sorry for my english i talk spanish. Cheers
I have ASUS Xonar D2/PM
You sir are a champion.
This solved my pop&click issues with Propellerheads Reason 6.
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Thank you a lot!
Hello like to start with thanking you for your wonderful work.
I have bought a roccat kave and have the xonar d2 i searched and came to this tread
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?board_id=21&a...
From you.
THere is a picture to set up the best settings for 5.1.
In the picture there you set the windows audio to 7.1 and unchecked the middle speakers.
When i do that it changes the settings in xonar controlpanel to to 8 speakers when i change it the back to 6 it changes the speakersetup of windows to back to 5.1.
So do i leave the settings in windows to 7.1 and xonar panel at 8 speakers or do i change it to 5.1.
For best 5.1 experience.
Thanks for the effort.
You should leave it to 7.1, because if you change it back to 5.1 it will change back the rear speakers to side speakers.
Now, I don;t know if this is better or not. That tip was at the suggestions of some people here, but I haven't had the opportunity to test it in games and no one whom I suggested to try that, gave any feedback.
The surround speakers in a Dolby 5.1 surround setup are supposed to be at the sides or just slightly back (90-110 degrees around from front center) and above ear level (if possible). They're not supposed to be all the way in the rear.
When I put up my Z-5500d's in their current and previous locations, I went to Dolby's web site, took a bunch of measurements, and did a bunch of trigonometry to figure out where to place the speakers.
I'm going to test and let you now
Hi again
@ Mr Uni Xonar drivers guy and other dedicated audiophiles here.
Can we not start a thread on the Asus sound card forum and list all the things you feel should be fixed, improved drivers and a good solid wishlist for the code guys at Asus to hopefully take onboard. Backed up with us putting sustained pressure on Asus somehow.. not saying I know how. FB/Twitter....I dont really know... But with such good overal hardware in these cards we have, should it not also be backed up with better driver software support. Pushing whats possible with the good solid code improvments and firmware updates.
Maybe one software tech at Asus will be able to make it happen.
We all want, and wish for better drivers and windows software dont we. better gui designs to back up the quality of the hardware etc.
There is enough of us posting here to make a good size thread on the forum and to email the right Asus staff if we can source those emails to try and make a difference. No? Yes?
tell me to shut up and stop dreaming.. comments and polite insults welcome 😉
hello,
Sorry for my english. For this is possible the answer of my prodlem is in the forum but i not see.
I have an asus xonar HDAV 1.3 deluxe with you ultimate driver and windows seven 64bits. My amplifier speaker are connected in the RCA analog output in 5.1. I not have pb with the sound of ma HTPC. The 5.1 is activ and the sound good.
The problem is the sounsd injected trough the SPDIF In of the card in optical mose. I have the sound but only in 2.1 and the rear speaker are the samte od the front speaker. What is the setup for to have 5.1 in this case?
Thank you
@ Jonny (Wales, UK)
They just don't care....like creative. Take your money and then nothing happens. Send them mail about their ''great'' drivers and guess what ..... 😀