1. AM27 Apr 2020 @ 22:35

    Hello everyone. Guys tell me. In your drivers fixed the problem of spontaneous reproduction of wild white noise or ultra high squeak? This thing happens on official drivers and win10


    • CarvedInside28 Apr 2020 @ 00:26

      You should first read FAQ Q&A 18. Then try this possible solution and let me know if it worked.


      • AM28 Apr 2020 @ 00:42

        My System

        Computer Type Компьютер с ACPI на базе x64
        Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
        OS Service Pack -
        Internet Explorer 11.778.18362.0
        Edge 44.18362.449.0
        DirectX DirectX 12.0
        Computer Name SDRS
        User Name dj_am
        Logon Domain SDRS

        CPU Type QuadCore Intel Core i7-2600, 3533 MHz (36 x 98)
        Motherboard Name Gigabyte GA-H77-DS3H (2 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1, 2 PCI-E x16, 1 mSATA, 4 DDR3 DIMM, Audio, Video, Gigabit LAN)
        Motherboard Chipset Intel Panther Point H77, Intel Sandy Bridge
        System Memory 16301 MB (DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM)
        BIOS Type AMI (11/14/2013)
        Communication Port Последовательный порт (COM1)

        Video Adapter GeForce GTX 1070 (8 GB)
        Video Adapter Intel(R) HD Graphics 2000 (2076 MB)
        3D Accelerator Intel HD Graphics 2000
        Monitor LG W1943 (Analog) [19" LCD] (1906530596)
        Monitor Samsung SyncMaster S22B350H/S22B350T (HDMI) [22" LCD] (2229842086448)

        Audio Adapter C-Media CMI8788 Audio Chip
        Audio Adapter nVIDIA Unknown @ Контроллер High Definition Audio (Microsoft) [10DE-10F0] [NoDB]

        IDE Controller Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller
        Storage Controller SoftPerfect Virtual Bus
        Storage Controller Контроллер дискового пространства (Майкрософт)
        Storage Controller Контроллер замыкания виртуального жесткого диска на себя (Майкрософт)
        Disk Drive Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB (500 GB, SATA-III)
        Disk Drive ST500DM002-1BD142 (500 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III)
        Disk Drive Виртуальный диск (Майкрософт) (8 GB)
        Disk Drive PLEXTOR PX-128M6Pro (128 GB, SATA-III)
        SMART Hard Disks Status OK

        Keyboard Клавиатура HID
        Mouse HID-совместимая мышь

        Network Adapter DFE-520TX Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter (

        Printer Canon MG3500 series Printer
        USB2 Controller Intel Panther Point PCH - USB 2.0 EHCI Controller #1 [C-1]
        USB2 Controller Intel Panther Point PCH - USB 2.0 EHCI Controller #2 [C-1]
        USB3 Controller Intel Panther Point PCH - USB 3.0 xHCI Controller [C-1]
        USB Device Generic USB Hub
        USB Device USB-устройство ввода
        USB Device Составное USB устройство

        DMI BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
        DMI BIOS Version F10
        DMI System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
        DMI System Product To be filled by O.E.M.
        DMI System Version To be filled by O.E.M.
        DMI System Serial Number To be filled by O.E.M.
        DMI System UUID 00020003-00040005-00060007-00080009
        DMI Motherboard Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
        DMI Motherboard Product H77-DS3H
        DMI Motherboard Version To be filled by O.E.M.
        DMI Motherboard Serial Number To be filled by O.E.M.
        DMI Chassis Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
        DMI Chassis Type Desktop Case

        So I do not use a microphone. My problem can arise even from just starting the player. I noticed that this noise began to appear after the update from 1803. Before that, I had no noise, but there were cods and stuttering. By the way, now there are no stuttering but there is noise. Very random. It can not be heard for months. Of the drivers, they are periodically updated only for the card and for the operating system itself. No antivirus software. Built-in is also disabled. Also set only 16 bits and 44KHz, turned off all other sound drivers - it did not help. Now I'm testing your drivers with a low latency + maximum volume level in the system. I also read a lot of your branches and forums.


        • CarvedInside28 Apr 2020 @ 01:00

          It's not actually that you use the microphone or not, it's that it is set as default and it is available.
          While the UNi Xonar drivers don't have a specific fix for this issue, installing them with "Low DPC Latency" configuration may help as I suspect high DPC latency could also be a factor. Just try to avoid using ASUS Audio Center and instead use C-Media Panel or XonarSwitch.
          Also do this, go to Windows Sound-> Recording tab -> disable every device there that's related to the ASUS Xonar card.

          BTW you did not tell us what Xonar card do you have.

          I hope you don't forget to come back and report how this all went.


          • AM28 Apr 2020 @ 01:30

            Yes of course. I'll keep you up to date. It is unfortunate that you did not solve this problem at the program level. My card is Xonar Essence ST. I have been using for 6 years. If it is useful to you, then it was used on Win7/8/8.1/10 x64


            • CarvedInside14 May 2020 @ 23:33

              I want to let you know I made a dedicated topic with possible solutions and discussions about the loud white noise issue here.


              • AM01 Jun 2020 @ 15:35

                thank you! a small report from the last message. I did not write in a new topic, so that it would be easier for you to track. So, when installing your driver, and your recommendations and setting the sound to 100%, white noise did not occur during this time. Now I will leave only your driver and 100% sound volume and I will inform you the results after some time. In a new topic, I saw tweak "Xonar drivers disable SpeakerCompensation tweak testing". Is it included in your driver sidebar? If not, does it make sense to install it in your opinion?


                • CarvedInside02 Jun 2020 @ 01:35

                  Previously, how often did you had the white noise issue?

                  SpeakerCompensation tweak it not currently included in the UNi Xonar drivers. You could leave it as is for now and see if you will get the issue with the current settings, if you still get it then try those other things I mentioned in the page.


                  • AM04 Jun 2020 @ 01:13

                    Always different. Sometimes a couple of months without any problems. And sometimes every three days.


                  • AM16 Jul 2020 @ 06:03

                    So I continue with the report. After the last change, everything is still fine. You can also try to install the official driver to make sure that the maximum volume is affected, but I will not. There is no need and no time. As a result, the maximum volume at the moment eliminates the problems of high ultrasonic noise. I use sound in the full range of works with audio, full web surfing 16/7. And the use of a lot of software. All Windows and driver updates - and no noise problems. I will continue the report.


        • CarvedInside19 Jul 2020 @ 14:34

          As a continuation from this disscussion.
          To clarify something, I did not suggest setting volume to 100% as a possible solution, instead this was to prevent hearing or equipment damage if the loud volume issue occurs.
          Which of my recommendations you currently have applied (disabled recording devices, installed drivers with Low DPC Latency configuration, etc.)?


    • bblaw2914 May 2020 @ 19:26

      I had that issue when i had forgot to turn off microphone monitoring from Xonarswitch.


      • CarvedInside14 May 2020 @ 23:24

        Just to make sure you've replied to the correct comment. That issue that you had is loud white noise?
        I made a dedicated topic about it here. If you have the problem in the future you can check the possible solutions there and contribute with feedback.


      • AM01 Jun 2020 @ 15:47

        I did not monitor in Xonarswitch. And the problem still arose.


  2. Feli04 May 2020 @ 14:33

    Fairly certain that issue is related to ground loops and other hard wired interference in house grids and only related to the sound card due to it being external via pcie (my friend had a similar issue with his amp streaming setup) and I believe a ground loop isolator or similar, possibly at worst relocating, solves that issue. I don't think it's related to any of the input devices.


    • CarvedInside05 May 2020 @ 00:39

      Please rewrite your comment as reply to the comment you wanted to reply.


      • Felicity18 May 2020 @ 12:48

        sorry :p point is moot anyway now, dead horse beaten

        i donated a couple weeks ago btw dont need anything in return tho thanks for all this work


  3. Ale OK08 May 2020 @ 22:21

    Best driver for Xonar DX on 1909?
    It's really sad that there are not updates to official drivers for 5 years already.


  4. Arise10 May 2020 @ 14:20

    Comment move here.


  5. steffmeister12 May 2020 @ 15:57

    Hello! I just installed the uni xonar drivers (I have asus essence stx with HP amplifier) in low latency mode with the c-media and standalone apps. I ran the "HpAMP card v1.00", but can't hear any difference between the different options: 0, +12 and +18. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks!


    • steffmeister12 May 2020 @ 16:02

      Nevermind, I just found a setting in XonarSwitch that let's me enable the AMP-settings! 🙂


  6. turkuaz5012 May 2020 @ 22:51

    hey i have hdav 1.3 deluxe. i cant run 6ch mode on windows 10. do yo know solutions. thnx


  7. chengda8516 May 2020 @ 07:56

    hi I have xonar DG and frequently get BSOD driver IRQL not equal with failed cmudaxp.sys, I'm running windows 10 64bit. This started happening after I reset windows 10 a few weeks ago, prior to that I've been using uni xonar drivers since 2017 with no issues whatsoever, so resetting windows did something weird. I have tried uninstalling/reinstalling uni xonar drivers but it doesnt help.


    • CarvedInside16 May 2020 @ 09:21

      Which panel configuration have you selected in the UNi Xonar installer? Which driver versions have you tried? How frequent are these BSODs? Tell me your complete Windows 10 version.


      • chengda8519 May 2020 @ 04:31

        panel configuration i chose was normal - asus audio center, windows 10 version is ver 1909 build 18363.836.
        I've tried UNi Xonar W10 1825 v1.81a r2, UNi Xonar 1816/1823 v1.80a r3, UNi Xonar 1816/1822 v1.75a r3. the BSODs happen randomly, sometimes once a day, sometimes 4 to 5 times a day, sometimes it doesnt happen for a couple days then happens again. It can happen at anytime, when I'm gaming, or when I just booted up my computer and did nothing much. I've never had this problem prior to a few weeks ago and I've been using uni drivers for years.


        • CarvedInside19 May 2020 @ 04:44

          Try installing with Low DPC Latency or C-Media Panel configuration. If it still happens use your system without the Xonar driver installed and see if you get any other bluescreen.
          Did you make any hardware changes to your PC recently? Tell me what motherboard you have.


  8. Kanuki16 May 2020 @ 12:46


    I see the new driver listed in ASUS website with the following detail.

    Version 2019/12/2516.98 MBytes
    Audio driver for Windows 10
    Audio driver (ver. , Audio Center version:

    Is this considered newer or older?
    Will you mod the driver to add new Audio Center?


    • CarvedInside16 May 2020 @ 22:25

      You forgot to say for which card. It does not matter anymore.
      ASUS just removed the beta tag from previous STX II 2015 driver package. This has the same audio driver as UNi Xonar 1.80b drivers.


      • Kanuki17 May 2020 @ 16:44

        Sorry. It's STX II. What about the Audio Center?


        • CarvedInside17 May 2020 @ 20:43

          ASUS Audio Center is also the same version as what it's included in 1.80b drivers.
          As I said, ASUS just removed the beta tag from previous STX II 2015 driver package, there is nothing new.


  9. Piratair18 May 2020 @ 23:14

    hello, i turn to you for help, i uninstalled the xonar audio center yesterday, thinking i have the setup to reinstall and that is not the case.
    Suddenly I can no longer use my xonar 1.3 hdav deluxe sound card with his daughter card, I don't know what to do, I searched the net without finding anything.
    I already know this site since I use it for my sound drivers, but there it does not work, my card is not recognized with, I downloaded the UNi Xonar W10 1825 v1.81a r2 driver today but I have the impression that it changes absolutely nothing.
    can someone help me find the xonar audio center to choose the configuration i want to listen to and the right drivers, i'm running windows 10 version 1809. thanks for your help.


    • CarvedInside19 May 2020 @ 01:24

      Which Xonar drivers did you have before, was it the original ASUS version or UNi Xonar? When you installed the UNi Xonar drivers have you enabled Test Mode or used "Disable Driver Signature Enforcement" like it's mentioned in the installation?


      • Piratair19 May 2020 @ 02:13

        thank you for your answer, I forgot that it was necessary in windows 10, disabled the signature of the drivers, that's it, my sound card is recognized.
        But that's not enough for me, I would like to have the xonar audio center to configure my sound card by choosing the number of input and output channels:

        to have as in this video this menu that I had until yesterday but that I did the stupidity to uninstall ...
        thanks for your help


        • CarvedInside19 May 2020 @ 02:19

          Which Panel configuration have you selected during install? If you've selected Low DPC Latency or C-Media Panel, then the ASUS (Xonar) Audio Center is accessible under Start menu-> UNi Xonar Audio-> Xonar Audio Center


          • Piratair19 May 2020 @ 02:51

            thank you for your help I have the menu as on the video and as before but I have one last concern, a lot of frying listening or watching a movie.
            Frying = noise, which harms the rest of the listening

            what will you come from?


            • CarvedInside19 May 2020 @ 03:11

              Did you had this noise before? Do you hear it if your PC isn't playing anything? Do you year it only in specific applications (like the video player)?

              But before we go any further, in exchange for the help I provided you with, I expect a donation from you. If you've previously sent me a donation, send me an e-mail from that e-mail address you used for payment. If you don't want to compensate me for my work and time then I cannot spend more time helping you.


              • Piratair19 May 2020 @ 04:56

                all work deserves salary, so it is with pleasure that I made a donation which seems more than normal to me for all the work that has been done for our pleasure.

                in fact after several tests I noticed that the noise appears only with MPC (mediaplayer) and on a front speaker not on both, so I do not think that it can come from the drivers.
                I use MAD and LAV audio decoder, do you think that a bad cable can be at the origin of that? But that seems strange to me it had disappeared for more than a year (because I had already had this concern in the past but without being able to find where it could come from but it had disappeared with the reinstallation of my pc and its operating system to new condition).
                And there it came back because I uninstalled my drivers this evening because I no longer heard my subwoofer and I was not patient in wanting to reinstall them, the noise returned.
                donation paypal(removed)
                thank you very much


                • CarvedInside19 May 2020 @ 06:45

                  I received your donation. I appreciate it.

                  If the noise is only in MPC, then it's probably not the cable. I'm thinking it might have do with MPC and it's setup (MAD and LAV).

                  How do you connect the speakers/headphones to the Xonar HDAV card? Do you use the analog connections, the digital S/PDIF Output or the HDMI output?

                  Try the following and report back if you hear the noise in any of the following scenarios:
                  1. Try the same video in the VLC player.
                  2. Increasing the load of the video card in a GPU benchmark. If you don't have something at hand, you can use Furmark and it's stress test.
                  3. If you use the analog connections or you use S/PDIF output and your onboard audio card also has S/PIDF output. Try using the onboard audio card and with MPC. There is no need to uninstall the Xonar drivers, you can set the onboard card as playback default in Windows Sound.


                  • Piratair19 May 2020 @ 14:36

                    hello and thank you for your answer, yes I use the analog outputs of my sound card hdav deluxe in 5.1, I also have a second sound card (sound blaster audigy) that I use on my Creative gigaworks speakers.
                    I do not use neither the hdmi output nor the S / pdif, I tried with the MPC-BE x 64 player, the noise is even louder, with Foobar or spotify no noise everything is sharp.
                    When I use MPC, if I pause the video the breath is heard for a few seconds then it too is paused ... stuff phew ...
                    I think you must have put your finger on something by making me test the load of the graphics card that I will do in the afternoon at home, (I'm in France :)).


                  • Piratair22 May 2020 @ 17:55

                    hello, I think it comes from mpc but I don't understand why because with VLC no noise when listening to movies ...
                    as you told me i tested the GPU load and with futurmark, it's a different noise but, the frying appears to listen.


                    • CarvedInside23 May 2020 @ 13:21

                      About the GPU test and noise:
                      1. If I understood you correctly, in the GPU test there was a noise but a different one?
                      2. Where you playing any audio during the test?
                      3. The noise is it coming from the speakers or from inside your case?
                      4. Which GPU do you have?

                      In MPC-HD, the noise could be as a result from the increased GPU load because of madVR or some other filter or setting you have. You could download a portable version of MPC-HC and try the desired settings and filters one by one, but I suspect once you add madVR you will start having the noise. This increased GPU load can create EMI (electromagnetic interference) which affects the Xonar audio card. If that's the case, I've written here what you could do. Let me know if one of those tips works for you.

                      Since this comment thread has reached it's limits please reply to this comment instead.

    • CarvedInside23 May 2020 @ 13:33

      Discussion about video playing in MPC and noises continued here.


      • Piratair23 May 2020 @ 20:07

        yes during the test, there was indeed a noise coming out of my speakers. It was regular but I think it came from the fact that the test did it on my GPU.
        I didn't listen to anything else during the test time, I don't think it came from the box but I could hear it coming out of my speakers.
        I have a 1080 gtx Nvidia graphics card.
        I think you are right about interference (EMI), so I will try the portable version of mpc without any other software help (without madvr and company).
        By cons I did not understand if I should do something other than testing with the MPC portable version?
        thanks again


        • CarvedInside24 May 2020 @ 13:36

          You test MPC portable and see which setting or filter causes the noise. Then check if enabling that filter or setting is correlated with an increased GPU usage or clocks (use GPU-Z for this) compared to when you have it disabled. Note that there could be the case where the GPU usage could remain low but the GPU could have increased clocks.
          If it's correlated then you can try the solutions I presented here.


  10. J19 May 2020 @ 22:30

    Is there any chance someone could please help me? I'm trying to install a ASUS Essence STX II 24-Bit 192KHz Sound Card + 7.1 daughter card using 11.5 v1.80b r3. The card will be used to output to a set of Logitech Z-5500 5.1 speakers using RCA to 3.5mm for 3 channels (1. front 2. rear 3. sub/center). I'm running Windows 7 64 bit and have a GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5 (rev. 1). The issue I'm having is I can only get audio if I crank the system volume as well as my Logitech speakers to the max. Even then it's quite low and bad quality. I've done everything from changing PCI slots to uninstall and reinstalling hardware as well as the drivers. Could anyone please shed some light on solving this?


    • riki19 May 2020 @ 23:44

      Is it the same in all audio/video players? have you connected the molex power cable into the sound card?


      • J20 May 2020 @ 02:26

        I have molex connected and tried different connections (there's about 3 on the same chord). Regarding audio / video players I tried audio from YouTube and Spotify. There's some interface problem somewhere but not sure what.


    • CarvedInside20 May 2020 @ 00:29

      Before trying anything always lower the volume to 0 so you don't get your ears blasted off if something works. Make sure the card is properly seated in the PCIe slot. Check that the power connector is properly plugged into the card and to the PSU if you have modular cables.

      If those do not work. Does this happen for all speakers? Test other channels (rear, center), test them in Windows Sound or in ASUS Xonar Audio Center or C-Media panel.
      Then you should either try the speakers as they are now with the onboard audio or some other speakers or headphones with the Xonar STX II card.


      • J20 May 2020 @ 01:30

        All this checks out. The speakers were hooked up to my onboard mobo sound with no issues. When I crank it up and barely hear any audio there is audio in each speaker. I have read on Amazon reviews that many people had issues with Windows 7 and that's what I am running. I've been troubleshooting for a day now and tried many different things with no success which is why I am turning here


      • J20 May 2020 @ 03:47

        I think something is happening going from system to speakers. The speakers are fine and the card seems to be installed as it checks out in the device manager and I can see see volume levels move. Could I need to adjust settings in the software? For example would this be incorrect?
        Audio channel: 6 channels
        Sample rate: 192 khz
        Analog out: 5.1

        Im trying to connect to Logitech Z-5500 speakers. I did try optical as well but did not get any sound but maybe there's a configuration that would change that?


  11. CarvedInside20 May 2020 @ 00:30

    Use the REPLY button when replying to an existing discussion. Please remake the comment as a reply to the comment you are responding to, after which I will delete this separate comment.


  12. AtriaProcess20 May 2020 @ 01:58

    What is the recommended driver version to use for an HT Omega Claro? Using Windows 10 with latest updates. Thanks!


  13. Dude Guyman24 May 2020 @ 01:41

    Any chance of support for Xonar SE cards? Here's a list of the problems Asus' drivers cause on that one: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?111994-Xonar-SE-Souncard-Problems-Any-Ideas


  14. Kershak29 May 2020 @ 00:42

    Admin edit: Already brought this issue before here.

    Hey, after some certain Windows update on Win 10 I have this ultra weird issue:
    Using Discord/Skype/whatever Voice Chat Software, Windows apparently lowers the volume, as soon as someone's speaking (e.g friend of mine talking in Discord automatically lowers my Spotify volume for the time of him talking)
    Yes, I've turned off the option in Windows (Do nothing) in the communcation setting, I also turned off the setting in Discord of course.

    Apparently this issue only occurs when I'm using the most current Xonar DGX Drivers from this site, as well as using the latest official one from ASUS.

    The only way, I have no issues with the automatic lowering of volume: Using the Windows Update Drivers, after uninstalling the device. I wouldn't mind using them, but I can't set the gain modes of the DGX, therefore I can't power my headphones enough.

    Got any idea? I'm willing to donate, if you have any hint or suggestion to follow up, I'm at my wit's end and about to throw in some bucks to buy a new one, if I can't fix this.


    • CarvedInside29 May 2020 @ 03:58

      You've brought this issue more than 1 month ago in another page. I've responded to you there but you didn't say if what I said it worked or not. Now you've brought the issue again but without continuing the the original discussion and without mentioning that you've posted this before. So I've read the whole thing thinking it's a new problem. If I didn't checked your comment history I might have replied the same thing as before. This kind of behavior shows a total lack of respect for my time.

      Now, if I again get involved in this problem that you have, if I say something, would you actually come back and tell me if it worked or not?
      If I am to spend my time helping you, you will have to make a donation of $6 now and another one of $5 or more if I help solve the problem.


      • Kershak31 May 2020 @ 13:11

        Fml, sry, I didn't get notifications, though I turned em on. Forgot a few days about the issue and didn't check back if there was a reply from you, as I got no mail.
        I'mma reply at the old post, sorry for the confusion there.


  15. Fry17829 May 2020 @ 01:33

    Just installed Windows 10 version 2004 (clean), and seems it doesn't like the 1823r3 driver.
    Crash reboots while/after the installer is running the driver cleaner, but the cleaner itself works fine.


    • CarvedInside29 May 2020 @ 02:23

      FYI You've originally replied to AM's comment on top instead of writing a new comment. I moved your comment, but in the future, know that to post a new comment, you need to use the comment form at the bottom of the comment section. While if you want to reply to an existing discussion, use the REPLY button on the right of the comment you want to reply to.

      Did it happen multiple times trying to install v1.81a? Have you tried with other driver versions and did they worked?


      • Fry17829 May 2020 @ 02:30

        sorry, was on phone and i just went by date to post after "last one".yes, did happen all 4 times i tried, ran cleaner after first time (that finished), even after reboot. Just got back on with the install, gonna try latest one.


        • CarvedInside29 May 2020 @ 03:30

          I misread and thought you actually had the crashes with v1.81a 1825 drivers which crash under certain circumstances. So anyway, test a couple of drivers and see if any of them work (1.81a, 1.75a, 1.71.1a). Also try without the driver cleaning option.

          It might take a while for me to get Windows 10 version 2004 installed so I can test things on my end too.


        • CarvedInside02 Jun 2020 @ 12:16

          I managed to test this on my end on clean Windows 10 version 2004 install and a Xonar DX card and did not have any issue installing any of the UNi Xonar drivers. So it's not a general issue, might have something to do with other software or drivers that you had installed on your system.


      • Fry17829 May 2020 @ 03:32

        Nothing worked, even the 1825 caused a reboot (after cleaner ran, but before driver install finished.).
        Seems to be a general problem, rather than with specific version, as i got it to install in safe mode.
        Everything works fine, incl use of FP/Sample rate/HDMI switch.


        • CarvedInside29 May 2020 @ 03:52

          So you've managed to install them in safe mode and now it's working fine? Did you use the UNi Xonar installer or you've manually install the drivers in Device manager? Which drivers you end up installing?

          Edit1: Updated with the 2nd question.


          • fry17829 May 2020 @ 06:10

            installed normal way (not by pointing to inf), using 1823, as 1825 was giving me trouble with mic not working when i tried it under 1909.


            • CarvedInside29 May 2020 @ 11:27

              Was not aware of a microphone problem with 1825 v1.81a drivers. What Xonar card do you have?


              • Fry17830 May 2020 @ 06:31

                Asus DSX.
                Probably was win related, but since i knew .23 worked, i just went back without trying to fix it.

                Update for 2004: runs fine so far, no issues or anything i notice being different than running driver with 1909.



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